European Respiratory Society

Who's (still) afraid of talc?

M. Noppen


Any pulmonologist who has ever visited a pleural disease or pneumothorax session at a major international conference or symposium, has heard the famous exclamation of my good friend Prof. Richard Light, one of the “popes” of pleural disease. Prof. Light is an exponent of the (mainly North American) school of pulmonologists who do not like talc as a pleurodesis agent. These pulmonologists do not like it to be used in malignant effusion, and they certainly do not like it to be used in young people with benign diseases, such as spontaneous pneumothorax!

The main reason for this is fear. Fear that talc is not safe. Fear that talc induces acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS). Fear that talc induces death. Fear that talc excludes eventual pulmonary surgery or transplantation. Fear that talc induces impaired lung function. Fear that talc causes mesothelioma or cancer. Fear that talc makes surgeons angry (now that is one I can understand!). Fear, however, is a bad advisor; knowledge is a much better one. Let us see what is known about talc safety.


Although some authors have observed respiratory failure, ARDS and even death after talc pleurodesis 1, 2, others have not, even in large series 35. In any case, these serious complications are extremely rare (41 out of 4,030 patients in a study by Sahn 6) and have only been observed in studies from the USA, Brazil and New Zealand, and not, for instance, in Europe or Israel. The occurrence of these serious complications seemed to be independent of the underlying disorder (malignant effusion or pneumothorax), the volume of talc used (2–10 g) or the method of administration (slurry or poudrage). An important observation, however, was that talc dissemination has been observed in virtually all organs when North American or Brazilian talc was used 7, 8 but not when extremely high doses were used 9, whereas no talc dissemination occurred when European, size-calibrated talc was used 10. Lung damage occurs only when small particle-sized talc is used, and not after exposure to large particle-sized talc 11. Small particle-sized talc causes more inflammation and impaired gas exchange than large particle-sized talc 12. Therefore, the observed differences in serious complications within various countries can mainly be attributed to differences in talc used, that is, differences in the number or proportion of small-sized talc particles 13. This hypothesis is corroborated by the fact that particle size is only mentioned in one as yet unpublished paper describing serious complications (talc particle diameter of 5–70 µm), in which it was observed that complications occur more often when small particle-sized talc is used (cut-off 5 µm), and, finally, by the results of a large, prospective, observational European study in which no case of ARDS was observed in a cohort of 558 patients treated with talc poudrage 14. The conclusion is that talc is safe if size-calibrated talc is used and at normal dosages.


Medical thoracoscopic talc poudrage is not only simple and feasible under local anaesthetic 1517 but it is also safe in the long term. A thorough review published in 1979 18 was unable to show any serious or well-documented side-effects of talc poudrage, even after a long-term observation. In a large series of patients observed for >20 yrs, Lange et al. 19 documented that talc did not provoke pulmonary fibrosis. However, a mild but asymptomatic restrictive impairment in pulmonary function was observed. This has also been observed by other authors in the months following the procedure, although pulmonary function improved within 1 yr 16. Viskum et al. 20 re-examined 99 patients 22–35 yrs after talc poudrage for spontaneous pneumothorax and found no serious complications or side-effects, as well as a recurrence rate of only 2.5%. In summary, talc does not cause cancer or mesothelioma, it does not cause pulmonary fibrosis and it does not cause significant impairment in pulmonary function in the long term. Does it cause angry surgeons? In my experience, the answer is yes. Therefore, I would like to refer them to the recent surgical literature. For instance, Cardillo et al. 21 have performed video-assisted thoracic surgery (VATS) talc poudrage in 861 spontaneous pneumothorax patients. They found no significant short- or long-term complications, and even checked pulmonary function in a subgroup of 29 patients, which all remained normal. Other brave surgeons include Pletinckx et al. 22 and Luh et al. 23. Finally, does talc poudrage make later thoracic or thoracoscopic surgery impossible? No! Doddoli et al. 24 showed that VATS re-intervention after previous talc poudrage up to 13 yrs previously was feasible in the majority of patients. In only 12 out of 39 patients was a re-conversion to (successful) thoracotomy necessary. Therefore, yes, this procedure is more difficult but not impossible.

Your honours, Mr Editors-in-Chief, I rest my case! I have shown, based on abundant peer-reviewed evidence, that talc poudrage is safe for pleurodesis, in malignant effusion and in spontaneous pneumothorax. Furthermore, talc is the most effective chemical pleurodesis agent, in both malignant effusion and in pneumothorax 16, 2529. Its mechanism of action is, as yet, incompletely understood. This is demonstrated by Najmunnisa et al. 30 in the current issue of the European Respiratory Journal (ERJ), in that talc mediates a dramatic decrease of angiogenic activity within the pleural space in patients with malignant effusions, which supports the use of talc as a sclerosant agent in these patients.

Furthermore, simple thoracoscopic talc poudrage is as efficient as more elaborated surgical VATS procedures. Size-calibrated talc does not cause ARDS or death. In the long term, talc does not cause cancer, pulmonary fibrosis, impaired thoracic surgical re-interventions or decreased pulmonary function, as shown by Györik et al. 31 in the current issue of the ERJ. This makes talc suitable for pleurodesis in benign conditions, such as spontaneous pneumothorax. Finally, it is by far the cheapest pleurodesis agent! I think this must be convincing evidence for every jury.

Finally, I would like to pay my respects to my friend Prof. Light, and I look forward to speaking to him about pleurodesis at various conferences around the world. I refer here to a French dictum that says: de la confrontation des idées jaillisse la lumière (truth emerges from the confrontation of opinions). This is how science works.


  • #: exclaimed at 100 dB!